Sabbath Service – July 9, 2022 – Bro Stair [Old Service], Pr Rice

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Sabbath Service – July 9, 2022 – Bro Stair [Old Service], Pr Rice

Last Updated on Thu July 14, 2022 @ 1:01 pm

For those interested in what profound words the Overcome are choosing to bring out for Service, today’s Service begins with the leaving rhetoric.  Any questions about our statements or conclusions can be addressed in the comments below.

In their efforts to declare their confusion they began service 13 minutes early (again) and didn’t inform Sister Burgess or turn down her mic.  Perhaps she wants more attention because she only gets in 3 minutes now.  Perhaps starting early is their way to fix Brother Stair’s perpetual lateness?  Something you don’t want in a prophet that is supposed to reveal to you the time.  Hoping it will be the correct time, and not late.  Well, that time has passed.  It failed!  Epically!

‘Leaving’ Rhetoric

Brother Stair admits stealing the word profound from Brother Stan.

Stairites, and Pastor Rice, should pay close attention to what Brother Stair said at 10:45 when he expressly details that he’s not going to go to his house, lie down and die.  That only the Pope is going to kill him.  That is something that he faced – and failed.  His claims have all turned out to be rhetoric.  Now it’s time for his followers to face it.

At least Brother Stair said (though not honestly – more rhetoric as he would say) that he wanted God to be God even God throwing me to Hell or wiping me right out.  This is not the realization of God that his current followers have.  They are doing all they can to exalt Brother Stair into sainthood and preserve his lies as truth.

The reason for God casting him to Hell was because if it did not happen one way or the other that he was killed by the Pope and his words came to pass.  Which, if you remember, is not what took place.  So…

About this leaving thing, it should be noted that in 2017 that Brother Stair left his followers alone to be raided by the authorities.  Or at least that was his intent when he went into hiding.  The prophet didn’t know his hour (any more than in his death) and the authorities waited till he returned from hiding to come in and arrest him and interrogate his followers.  He had left the building for the jailhouse, again.

So if all leaving is wrong.  Then what was this?  And if it’s never right to leave, as the prophet liked to say, then why does he have you leave your family, friends, city, church, houses, cars, land, finances, holiness, righteousness, …?  Again, let’s not forget that he left his Community to hide – as if that was going to keep him from going to jail.  We hope you see the confusion here because those under his delusion cannot, for the simple reason that God has given them a strong delusion because they believe Stair’s lies (2Thes 2:11).

Manifesting Apostasy

Brother Stair calls those that leave apostate.  But apostate means one who commits apostasy, which is 1: an act of refusing to continue to follow, obey, or recognize a religious faith,  2: abandonment of a previous loyalty : defection.  This is indeed why people left Brother Stair but not because they were apostates but because Brother Stair had apostatized.

It was Brother Stair who refused to obey the Christian faith and the Bible, especially in regards to his refusal to turn from his sins.  It was Brother Stair who abandoned his loyalty to God (at least we assumed that’s where it lay).  It was he that defected from God, not those that defected from him.  It is those who remain with him that are the apostates to the faith.  They choose to remain in Sodom and will be destroyed with it.  They even follow another gospel to prove it.  He turned away from the gospel of God unto another (Gal 1:6-9).  As Pr Rice will say today, “we are the fruit of his labor”.  This fruit has likewise apostatized from the truth.

To this apostasy, he adds his false doctrine of God giving you a witness“I didn’t give you the witness indeed you did.  No one even looked for a witness until you told them to, then they ‘heard’ just what you said they’d hear – how convenient.  Meanwhile, God’s word says He doesn’t give that kind of witness.  This is more magnified by Jesus when he spoke (warned) of prophets and told us that we were to know them (get a witness on them) by their fruits (Matt 7:15-20).  By the way, if we have some witness from God on Brother Stair, then why does he even need to repent?  Not that he did.  Why then all his rhetoric about having repented?

Related:  Sabbath Service - June 27, 2020 – Bro Stair

Repentance Rhetoric

Then he goes into the rhetoric of his repentance and how we supposedly have witnessed it.  No, we didn’t, and that’s the reason for all the leaving.  He then parades up his supposed acts of repentance and then calls those that don’t buy it damn spiritual hardheads.  Such a manifestation of repentance.  It’s no wonder people question his feigned repentance.

What we saw, as did everyone with unblinded eyes, was Brother Stair waxing worse and worse (Matt 15:14;  2Tim 3:13).  That was the change that we all witnessed.  Today, none of this really matters, because Brother Stair’s words have all failed and his testimony has been sealed with his death He lied in everything!  That is his epitaph.

Prophecy Failed

None of his prophecies were manifestNone of the events surrounding his death transpired.  He told us all that if that didn’t happen then he was a false prophet and that we should all get away from him, because false prophets go to Hell, and so do their followers.  Why do his current followers disobey those words?  They have not only apostatized from the Word of God but also from the words of their Prophet idol (Ex 20:3).  How can they be saved?  Remember, they are the fruit of his labor”.

In remembering that none of his prophecies were manifest, we should also remember how Pastor Rice declared that we should not fall into the trap of trying to vindicate Brother Stair in seeing that everything that he said ‘by the letter’ materializes [manifests]”.  Yet vindicating him is all Pastor Rice and the Overcomer broadcast try to do.  They are head in the sand, full speed down, still too blind to see through their strong delusion that God has given them that Brother Stair’s failed materialization [manifestation] of his prophecies means that he’s a false prophet – and they should run (2Thes 2:11;  Deut 18:22).

The fact that they remain faithful to the words of Brother Stair – even though they have failed – should reveal to themselves that they are indeed idolizing Brother Stair and his exalted being in their worship of him.  For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled (Matthew 5:18).  Therein is the difference between God’s word and Brother (false god) Stair’s word.  Pastor Rice will come in today and magnify how Brother Stair’s words are not to be trusted to come to pass.  Yet they still fear the Prophet and give him worship.

Fomenting Fear

This fear is another of Brother Stair’s prophetic statements that he used to force (demand) his people to bow down and fear him now because God’s going to make you do it eventually.  Another “God told me”God told me that you’re gonna fear my words, he liked to invoke.  This is in direct opposition to God’s command where He tells us that we are not to fear prophets that speak words that don’t come to pass.  When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or prove true, that is a word which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of [fear} him (Deut 18:22  AMPC).

Perhaps Pastor Rice is saying this also, just not realizing it.  That Brother Stair’s words are presumptuous and are not going to materialize.  Pastor Rice is shifting this fear unto himself.  Listen how he browbeats those who do not show up to hear him – they are not fearing him.  Watch as this progresses more and more to see Rice become the domineer that Brother Stair was.  He’s already acquired Brother Stair’s concubine Rose.

“Somehow you’re so deluded that you think that you’re gonna keep getting by with them [sins]”

Somehow?  It’s because they are deluded by a false prophet.  It was that same prophet who [thought] that [he was] gonna keep getting by with [his sins].  He just kept on going on and became worse and worse (2Tim 3:13;  Dan 12:10;  Rev 22:11).  He went and took his brothers’ wife and was in that adulterous relationship until his death (Mark6:18) .  Now Pastor Rice has the same woman.

Related:  Sabbath Service – Oct 2, 2021 – Bro Stair [Old Service]

“You think you’re walking in the fear of God.  You’ve been deluded.  You’re being deceived.”

Indeed Brother Stair was a first partaker of this because he continued in his own ways and sins.  Likewise, those who follow his pernicious ways have been deluded and deceived (2Pt 2:2).  As Pastor Rice says today, “we are the fruit of his labor”.  This fruit of his walking in delusion and deception spreading division.  This is not the Tree of Life that is the fruit of the righteous (Pr 11:30).

Manifesting Jezebel

Pastor Rice accelerates his wrath against the saints who oppose his perverse rule with over an hour and 10 minutes (Rev 13:7).  Rice starts at 2:11 on this cut.  He is manifesting the spirit of the age that blames others for the evil that they themselves are creating and operating in.  This was just what Brother Stair always did too.  This is a manifestation of the blind spirit that they are under (Matt 15:14).

This is almost laughable (if it wasn’t so serious and at the cost of their souls) that the reason that this Services message is being aired today is because of the supposed leaving of those who are opposed to Pastor Rice’s rule.  But it is Pastor Rice that has left Brother Stair.  Most profoundly (to use Stan’s word) when he declared that Brother Stair’s words have no manifestable meaning in the 2021 Rosh Hashanah Service.  That it’s a trap to believe that what Brother Stair said would come to pass.

“Let’s not fall into the trap of trying to vindicate Brother Stair in seeing that everything that he said ‘by the letter’ materializes.  But let us be faithful that he has prepared us and taught us.  What he said ‘by the spirit’ will happen.” “He will be vindicated and so will you.”


This is made even clearer as Pastor Rice starts out proclaiming that we don’t believe everything that [Brother Stair] said.  He says this because of the paradox of believing everything that Brother Stair said would mean that you believe him today when he says that you don’t believe everything I say.

Paradox has never stopped Brother Stair or caused him to consider the absurdity of what he says.  Perhaps it was too profound a word for him.  Perhaps he needed Stan to give it to him.  His greatest paradox is the Seven Thunders.  He reasons that nothing can happen without a prophet declaring it beforehand, then he gives out the Thunders after they happened.  He didn’t think that one through very well did he?  Did you?

“We do not believe everything that God says.”

Thus their psychobabble is complete.  Obviously, they don’t believe God or they would not be following a false god [Brother Stair].  The reason they don’t believe everything God says is because what God says is contrary to what Brother Stair says – and you can’t serve two masters (Mt 6:24).  They have chosen to serve Brother Stair – or at least the parts of him that they want to.  Because Brother Stair’s teachings allow them to continue in their sins – until Jesus comes (Rom 6:1).

“I may have offended some by saying that we don’t all believe everything the Prophet said but I told the truth.”

So who is this message really directed to?  Those of you who support Pastor Rice should think about that one.  Pastor Rice is in rebellion against Brother Stair – yet has usurped his place.  That folks, is the Jezebel spirit at work (Rev 2:20).


Pastor Rice pulls his message from Brother Stair’s message, as he reiterates his notes of what Brother Stair said.  This is interesting because that’s a phrase that he often uses to mock his congregation with – “Brother Stair said…”.  He notes that there are no children at the Overcomer Farm anymore.  This is because there are few people there in the first place but it is largely due to Brother Stair’s sex sins that the children were restrained from being around him.  Thus we are shown more fruit of Brother Stair and his marvelous ministry of perfecting the saints – in sexual perversions (Mt 7:15-20).  It was not one of perfecting any children – only touching them.  This is another spirit of the age as certain countries have leaders that do the same.


Perhaps Brother Stair read it to say perverting the saints, not perfecting.  Likewise, Pastor Rice has adopted Stair’s damnable false teaching that we will not be perfected until Jesus comes.  This was not what those who left in 2001 came for.  They came under a message of perfection now.  Then they found out that Brother Stair had no goals thereof and was in gross sexual sin throughout his ministry.  He was lying and deceiving us, as such he betrayed us in his lying about his holiness.  Do you now see why the 50% (then 95%) left?

Related:  Sabbath Service – April 17, 2021 – Bro Stair [Old Service]

Young Men

Something else that isn’t at the Overcomer is young men.  Brother Stair use to say that it was young men that marked a ministry of God.  Therefore, this is not a ministry of God.  That must be why he quit saying that after he lost all his young men after 2001 due to his imperfections with the young sisters.

Brother Stair not only would say Lord Lord, and not do what He said (Luke 6:46) but he didn’t even do what he claimed God said to him to do, nor did he do what he himself said he should do.

Leave the Rhetoric

Leave your simple ways (that Brother Stair desires you to walk in) and live;
walk in the way of understanding
[Brother Stair demands you to walk in his ways and obey him] (Proverbs 9:6  NIV78).

The Gospel is about leaving.  Leaving sin, flesh, and the devil.  Leaving our old ways and killing our old man.  It’s no wonder that Brother Stair preached another gospel – he was against leaving those things.  Brother Stair was not a man to leave his sins and the pleasures that he derived from them.  He switched this biblical leaving for his own brand of leaving – leaving everything God instituted for us.  Family, friends, Church, jobs, cities, houses, lands, finances, judgment, righteousness, holiness,…  and yes, our own relationship with God Himself.  Brother Stair had a new god for us to worship – the Prophet, the Sign, the Son of Man, …, with many more titles that would be applied, to where even Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit’s titles would be invoked over himself.

Thus the manifestation of this Man of Sin was inevitable – no matter how hard he tried to hide it.

The Beginning

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom (Pr 9:10).

So why then did we buy into Brother Stair’s false teachings on fear?  We should have identified him a few verses later in Proverbs 9.

The woman Folly is loud;  [woman = without authority, out of order (Rev 2:20).  Loud, anyone ring a bell?]
    she is undisciplined and without knowledge.  [both apparent in Bro Stair]
She sits at the door of her house[Radio Room]
    on a seat at the highest point of the city,  [airwaves, satellites]
calling out to those who pass by,  [Pass by on the radio dial]
    who go straight on their way, [we were on the Straight Way but were diverted by Bro Stair]
“Let all who are simple come in here!”  [to the Overcomer]
    she says to those who lack judgment.  [speaks to those who will not judge him, will not accept judgment from them]
Stolen water is sweet;  [adultery (Pr 10:23)]
    food eaten in secret is delicious!”  [mysteries, hidden works of darkness]
But little do they know that the dead are there,  [at the Overcomer]
    that her guests are in the depths of the grave (Sheol).  [Hell, the place of torment.  Most are actually in the graveyard]
(Proverbs 9:13-18  NIV78)

The Middle

Violence overwhelms the mouth of the wicked (Pr 10:6b, 11b  NIV78).  How did we not see it?  Because the violent mouth taught that it was God’s will and wayJustification was the rule of the day at the Overcomer.  Not for us but for the Great One (Acts 8:9).  His title, calling, anointing, and whatever else he would daub the wall up with (Eze 13:14) was his reason for getting away with things that no man should have gotten away with.

Whoever ignores correction leads others astray (Pr 10:17).  Oh how we all know how Brother Stair hated correcting and refused reproof (KJV).  This verse is talking about leaders.  Think of how nourishing Brother Stair’s words were – in tearing you down, never building you up.  He would boast of this as if it were a righteous deed he was doing (Pr 10:20-21).  Did he nourish many?  No, he cast out many and many left because of his false words and his evil deeds (Pr 10:21;  3Jn 1:9-10).  They didn’t leave because they were leaving God.  They left because they were following God.

The End

The name of the wicked will rot (Pr 10:7).  A chattering fool comes to ruin (Pr 10:8, 10).

The hopes of the wicked
    come to nothing
(Pr 10:28  NIV78)


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