Seven Thunders

Last Updated on September 5, 2021

The major hallmarks of Brother Stair’s ministry that put him on the map are his 1987 The Prophecy’ and his sole exposition of the Revelation of the Seven Thunders of Revelation 10:3-4.  You know the ones, the ones that the Voice from Heaven said: Were not to be revealed“Don’t do it!” (Rev 10: 4  TLB).

Why then would someone come along and try to reveal them?  Because they want to be noticed and have something that only they have – some secrets of God [so-called (Rev 2:24)] that only they can reveal to you (Acts 8:9).  This is the pattern of the Revival Era preachers shysters that Brother Stair was schooled under.  They taught him that you need something to set you apart from the others.  Something special so that you can get the crowds coming out to see you and not the others.  So that you can then fleece them. 

A special name, a special title, a special catchphrase like “God’s man of faith and power”, or something like “Jesus is coming in THIS generation”.  Making yourself out to be some great one is the icing on that cake.  Something like the Last Day prophet, the Voice of God, or the Sign of His coming.

A Brilliant Flash of Light

The Seven Thunders are certainly a brilliant play, because who can say that your revelation is wrong?  Because no one knows what they said.  And for good reason – because God didn’t want it known – not then and not at any time.  God said ‘Shut them up’ He didn’t say ‘Hold then until the end’.  What they said has no bearing on what we need to know about the End Times (as Brother Stair claims these revelations show us).

But let’s not overlook, as the Overcomer Ministry is not doing, that Brother Stair declared in 2008 that the fourth Thunder had everything to do with time and where we were supposed to be in timeThe revelation of the Man of Sin, the Two Witnesses (Elijah and Moses), and where we are in the last 3 1/2 years.  Even then he was ambiguous as to what all or a selection thereof would be revealed.

Nothing makes this point of this having no bearing clearer than Brother Stair’s own revelation of what the 7 Thunders are.  They are things so ambiguous, without any connection to a biblical meaning or the times.  They were just pulled off the headlines and run up the flagpole.  They don’t even include world-shaking events like the fall of the Berlin Wall, 9/11, or the Coronavirus Pandemic.  They are about political men or Popes that are never related to how it affects biblical timing, or us. 

So their bearing on being a revelation for our time that we need is completely bogus.  Especially since they were all heard after the fact.  How is that going to help us?  This is where another perverted scripture will come in handy – God reveals the beginning in the end.  At the end of the matter is when we will know when it began.  This was how Brother Stair use to sell us on being in the Tribulation period but not knowing it.  The actual scripture says just the opposite (Isa 46:10) and Bro Stair ceased saying it like that but would still propagate that as the way we were to interpret it.

What’s more, we are just supposed to believe them to be the Thunders because Brother Stair says so.  This benefits only him.  They have no bearing on the Church or revealing to us where we are in the End Times.  Their sole purpose is to exalt Brother Stair as the great one who alone gets these secrets from God (Acts 8:9;  Rev 2:24).  Therefore we must listen and heed the Prophet’s voice or we will miss God’s revelations.  Not that these revelations are doing us any good – that’s not to be considered.

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We can add to this the pitch that has been sold by other false prophets and that is that you have to receive the prophet to receive the prophet’s reward (Mt 10:41).  This prophet’s reward is then sold to be revelation knowledge.  While this should be an obvious perversion of God’s word, many believe this lie because they are already under the prophet’s strong delusion (2Thes 2:11). 

Well, if this revelation truth were so then what need have you of said prophet telling you what the Thunders said?  Or for any revelation from their mouth?  Well, because they sell it that you only receive this if you’re receiving said prophet.  You see, you’re trapped again in a circular (un)logic.

What Is and What Will Not Be

What is said and what is not said here is important.  Because Brother Stair puts words into the book of Revelation (as he does with all scriptures) that it doesn’t have, infer, or intend.  This is bad particularly because Revelation (at least) contains a curse upon those that add to IT – you know, something like revealing the words of the Seven Thunders (Rev 10:4).  That kind of adding to it

This is the main thing that makes these Thunders deadly.  They are not only perversions on scripture they are outside of scripture, and further, they are also of private interpretation (2Pt 1:20).  This private interpretation is what makes them wrong and puts them outside of scripture.  No scripture is of or from a private interpretation (2Pt 1:10).  So what we have here is either a fantom of Brother Stair’s own imagination or most likely a doctrine of demons from the ‘god’ that he has long heard from which never speaks to him about his gross sins but accuses the brethren at almost every breath (Zec 3:1).

Brother Stair first got the concept of revealing the Seven Thunders from William Branham who spoke of them and thought that he revealed them.  He realized that he could make up anything and no one could prove him wrong because the Bible doesn’t say what they are.  Which is the whole point here.  The Bible not only doesn’t say what they are but the Bible does say that they are not to be revealed

Joseph Coleman, as former Brenhamite, also taught that he revealed the Seven ThundersHe taught that the seven thunders were the virtues of 2 Peter 1:5-7 – which would be far more in line with scriptures than anything Brother Stair concocted.  Though you should realize that the Thunder didn’t say that either because that is something that could have been written down – and were written down. 

None of these prophets have the necessary witness that is required by God to establish the matter of the Seven Thunders (2Cor 13:1).  But the whole reason they are doing it is they want to be exalted as the only one who reveals it.  The very matter of 2Cor 13:1 should be enough for us to have ended this before it was started.  In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.  Sadly, scripture is not enough for followers of delusions.  So for their sake, we continue.

77 Jump Street

Another trick that Brother Stair engages here is one of his common plays.  That of jumping scriptures.  He does this with his teaching of The Jonah Sign where he jumps from Matthew 24 to Matthew 12 – without telling you – and answers the latter question of the disciples with a former answer to the Pharisees.  How out of context can you make something? 

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Well, he did the same thing with the Seven Thunders.  As we previously stated, the Voice from Heaven said of reveling the Seven Thunders: “Don’t do it!” that they Were not to be revealed”  (Rev 10: 4  TLB).  So what did Brother Stair do about that?  He jumped back to Daniel.

In Daniel 12:9 he found, And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.  So he would add this to his revelation of the revelation.  This was the reasoning for his having the revelation of the Seven Thunders – it was now time for them to be revealed.  Unfortunately now we not only have four worthless revelations, but we are also missing the last and most important three.

If he would have kept reading to the next verse he would have found the revelation of his last days.  Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand (Dan 12:10).  He was found waxing worse and worse and not understanding it.  Nor did he understand that is says many shall be purified.  That certainly doesn’t fly well with his doctrine of the few.

Instead, he took that verse and rode it like a hobby horse to accuse people of being wicked in that they didn’t understand him.  Brother Stair loved to say that if you don’t understand – then you’re wicked.  He was always referring to understanding him and the perverted interpretations he would put on things.  To have a pure heart that did not understand his wickedness meant that you were wicked, in Brother Stair speak.

The Four Headless Horsemen

Brother Stair only revealed the first four Thunders before his death.  This again shows us that he was lying and making these up.  He was the one, the only one, that would, and could, give us these Seven Thunders (see 2 Corinthians 13:1).  So here they are:

  • Thunder #1 Dec 1989 – when George Bush Sr. & Mikhail Gorbachev met on the High seas off the coast of Malta.
  • Thunder #2Aug 9th, 1993 – Denver was the focus of the world’s attention when the Pope came to Denver Colorado.  Brother Stair said Denver was the highest city and the highest capital in the USA – it is neither.
  • Thunder #3Sept 1993 – The World Parliament of Religions meets in Chicago.  It was the 100th anniversary of this Organization.
  • Thunder #4Sept 24, 2015 – The Pope came to congress
  • [null]#5? – In March 2021 Brother Stair was waiting for the 5th Thunder and questioned if it had already blown.
  • [and]
  • [void]

What we have here is an invalidated revelation.  This cannot be of God.  God finishes what He starts.  One thing we’ve witnessed in Brother Stair is that he never finished anything.  He would accuse others (like Brother Kirk) of this while his ‘finishing’ was simply quitting on things and discarding themLike he did with his people.

Let’s take a look at why we have Pastor Rice now declaring that he is waiting on the Revelation of the Man of Sin when Brother Stair, Prophet Stair, is the man who is to do said revelating.  What about the last three Thunders of the departed prophet?  Was #5 to be the revelation of the man of sin?  Didn’t Brother Stair say that already took place in 2001?  In case you’ve forgotten all the others things in the timeline of future events that Brother Stair has declared that must take place, check out the Future Timeline.

Will Do Nothing

One of Brother Stair’s great justifications of himself that he would also base these Thunder revelations on was that The Lord God will do nothing, but He revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets (Amos 3:7).  Thus the Seven Thunders must be revealed by a prophet of the events of the book of Revelation cannot take place.

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While that sounds like a great selling point.  Does it have any validity here?  Let’s apply that reasoning to the first four Thunders.  All of these events happened before they were revealed.  So how could they have been a Thunder?  Or how could they have even happened if a prophet didn’t say so beforehand?  So there is something amiss with this reasoning that Brother Stair has sold us.

Has this not been fulfilled?  Indeed the prophet Jesus told us that “It is finished!”(John 19:30).  So let’s stop looking for another (Luke 7:19).  That’s how you get deceived into following the coming false prophets that Jesus warned us of in Matthew 24.  Guessing Brother Stair never told you that about Matthew 24, did he?

Seven Deadly Sins

The fruits of the spirit are in contrast with the works of the flesh (Gal 5:19-24).  Here we show what is commonly called the Seven Deadly Sins vs. the Seven Virtues.

FLESH SPIRIT
Lust Chastity
Idolatry Faith
Greed Good Works
Discord Concord
Indulgence Sobriety
Wrath Patience
Pride Humility

Which side do we find someone revealing false visions which they alone have (indulgence) to puff themselves up (pride, greed, lust)?  Accusing (discord) those who reject their revelations (idolatry) with damnation (wrath)?

Which side do we constantly find Brother Stair on? 

Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are:
immorality,
impurity,
sensuality,
i
dolatry,
sorcery,
enmities,
strife,
jealousy,
outbursts of anger,
disputes,
dissensions,
factions,

envying,
drunkenness,
carousing,
and things like these,
of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that
those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

But
the fruit of the Spirit is
love,
joy,
peace,
patience,
kindness,
goodness,
faithfulness,
gentleness,
self-control;
against such things
there is no law.
Now
those who belong to Christ Jesus
have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

(Galatians 5:19-24  NASB95)

 

Deadly Deceptions

What makes these Seven Thunders, and the more Deadly Sins, the deadly revelations of the prophet, the deadly interpretations, the wrestling of the scriptures (2Pt 3:16), and such like (Gal 5:21).  Are that they are part of a strong delusion that is sent to damn you (2Thes 2:11).  That’s deadly!

You do not want to partake of the plagues of Revelation by receiving the prophet’s reward – which is this for adding to the words God didn’t want to be written in Revelation (Rev 22:18, 10:4).  That’s deadly!

Be warned!  This is just one of many of Brother Stair’s damnable doctrines.  This is an epic foundational one, which removes the secure foundation of God – that’s deadly!

If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?
(Psalm 11:3  NASB)

Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal:
“The Lord knows those who are His;” and,
Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to keep away from wickedness.”

(2Tim 2:19  NASB)

In light of those scriptures, how does Brother Stair destroy God’s foundation?  By causing the righteous to go astray in an evil way (Pr 28:10) by teaching wickedness and living in wickedness.  By not being washed, sanctified, and therefore not justified (1Cor 6:11).

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?  Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. (1Cor 6:9-10  BSB)

That’s deadly!

 

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